XTreme Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 A company by the name of Vertical Scope! These are just the ones that show up on Google.....there's page after page of them! Amongst their acquisitions are a lot of motorcycle and automotive sites......and every forum looks exactly the same! Like THIS in fact! Vertical Scope buy them up, then bump up membership prices and plaster the place in Ads. Total domination of the market! Of course, the independents have always had paid memberships and Ads as well! And I do understand the reasoning for this! However, I will point out that all the forums I've done since 2002 have always been free and never had Ads. Yet the strange thing is that the site owners who receive revenue get worshipped as Forum Gods, but when I give people something for nothing, there are some who are still not happy. But what do I know? I'm just an Internet troublemaker after all. What can we learn from this @Tym? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earache Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 My buddy started and owned a Duc forum and Vertical Scope bought it from him and killed it off in about a year. Was thriving forum and went straight to the shitter really fast. Both @DesmoDog and I were Moderators (probably had something to do with it';s demise) and it was a decent forum for awhile. He got around $20K from Vertical Scope for it - not sure if that's a lot or not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Earache said: He got around $20K from Vertical Scope for it - not sure if that's a lot or not. Oh yeh.....big dosh! There was never any hope of me selling any of mine......one look at the clientele would have been enough for them! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 One of my old bosses used to say "if it costs nothing it has no value" , although this was in the context of giving customers something for nothing, which the sales guys liked doing....frequently! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I see your “if it costs nothing it has no value” and I raise you- he knows “the cost of everything and the value of nothing” 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 If you apply that analogy to forums then there are some that cost something.....but actually have no value. Now I'm not saying this forum does actually have any value.....but at least people have the peace of mind of knowing it cost them nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tym Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, XTreme said: What can we learn from this @Tym? People are weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, Tym said: People are weird. Yes very much so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooN Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, XTreme said: However, I will point out that all the forums I've done since 2002 have always been free and never had Ads. which would explain why they've always been the haunts of skinflints and tightwads! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, MooN said: which would explain why they've always been the haunts of skinflints and tightwads! Nobody can ever say we were elitist Chris! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooN Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, XTreme said: Nobody can ever say we were elitist Chris! that's true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 hours ago, XTreme said: A company by the name of Vertical Scope! These are just the ones that show up on Google.....there's page after page of them! Amongst their acquisitions are a lot of motorcycle and automotive sites......and every forum looks exactly the same! Like THIS in fact! Vertical Scope buy them up, then bump up membership prices and plaster the place in Ads. Total domination of the market! Of course, the independents have always had paid memberships and Ads as well! And I do understand the reasoning for this! However, I will point out that all the forums I've done since 2002 have always been free and never had Ads. Yet the strange thing is that the site owners who receive revenue get worshipped as Forum Gods, but when I give people something for nothing, there are some who are still not happy. But what do I know? I'm just an Internet troublemaker after all. What can we learn from this @Tym? you cant please all of the people all of the time just some of the people some of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, skyrider said: you cant please all of the people all of the time just some o f the people some of the time And I don't even manage to please any of the people any of the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, XTreme said: And I don't even manage to please any of the people any of the time! well there you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, skyrider said: well there you go Well at least nobody has to pay for this mindless shit Lionel! Unlike some places that actually charge for their mindless shit! This is truly the best value mindless shit that you'll ever find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, XTreme said: Well at least nobody has to pay for this mindless shit Lionel! Unlike some places that actually charge for their mindless shit! This is truly the best value mindless shit that you'll ever find! and thats exactly what i like Pete good value 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 your subtle, i'll give you that @XTreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Six30 said: your subtle We need to have the slogan "Free Shit For All" in the header I reckon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, XTreme said: We need to have the slogan "Free Shit For All" in the header I reckon! Shit Free For All might be a better fit 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 hours ago, XTreme said: Nobody can ever say we were elitist Chris! I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Buckster said: I am. We let Fuckmine join! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yen_powell Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 They bought XRV.org and it not only went down hill, but the moderators all left shortly afterwards (including me). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooN Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, yen_powell said: They bought XRV.org and it not only went down hill, but the moderators all left shortly afterwards (including me). i watched that with horror. Went down hill faster than people could jump off. Started with subscription demands too as I recall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share Posted May 1, 2021 8 hours ago, MooN said: i watched that with horror. Went down hill faster than people could jump off. Started with subscription demands too as I recall. It happens with every forum they buy......I can't figure out how it can be profitable. Yet they keep on buying them up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I personally don't have a problem with a discreet and relevant ad here or there, as long as it doesn't eat up too much screen space or become to obtrusive, if it means the survival of the forum. Voluntary donations are also OK I think. But this is going at a tangent from the original post. Yes, buying up forums and killing them off doesn't strike me as a robust business model! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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