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Had a 98 Road King Classic. It was a Harley in the truest sense - rear brake better than front, suspension was so-so. But, the paint and chrome were excellent! (seriously). I love my R18, however. There is a quality that BMW imbibes in all their products that isnt really matched by other bike makers. Not that the others are falling apart. Go ahead and throw out the recall slings, or failed final drive comments. I've never not been taken care of by the mother ship. That being said, i've signed up to test the Harley BMW (Pan American) come late may, at Lake Elsinore. I'm wondering if i should ride my BMW Harley there ?

You’ll find it again or should I say it’ll find you. Everyone has slumps in motivation to do things, sometimes when shit happens for a very long time but from my point of view if you dont force it somehow one day it just reappears. Then Africa will be yours and I’m sure a rollicking good’n itll be ?

We really dont need people, signed, Uranus. ?

I've already heard real-life reviews (a few) on the Harley GS and for the most part, people like it. More power than my GS, at about the same weight. The only complaint is the front end look, but then we like the GS front end ?

That's just too much to keep up with. Ride a GS there, and step off one and ride the other back to back. I'm interested (theoretically) on your conclusions

Must be the new drugs big pharma has come out with. ?

Coming over here to see me again!

It is......we have a population of 7000. It's a town not a village. The population of Granada province is about 920,000.

Doomed. ?

Not quite as bad as calling a motorbike clothing line ‘John Doe’ ?

Yer getting the Fat Boy in and out of a garage with awkward access is why my dad wanted to get rid of it. Pulling it backwards at an angle is the thing I struggle with most. I suppose thats why its part of the test here, I stood still so long to recover after pulling my bike backwards in arc on my test the examiner thought there was something wrong ?

I wouldn't have either one anyway but for me, I have to turn the bikes in the back garden and get them in the sheds. Not the most uneven or smallest but this is where I struggle. I still consider myself reasonably fit a strong but for this reason is why I trader the XT1200. If honest Mandis cbf1000 is the bike that's gives me the hardest time and I did drop the previous one. Heavy, low with narrow bars but she's loves the bloody thing.

This bike IS a pleasure without the guilt. I have ridden the XC and the XE. Actually prefered the taller version. ( I might put a video on of the day, my friend Barbara came from the UK for a visit so I got a Scrambler for 2 days and she rode the Speed Triple, that she prefered to her Monster S4R. Not sure, we talk non stop, will bore you to death!!! ) It is a joy to ride, does not feel like a 1200cc engine and is very nimble. The noise is great and its, to me at least, kind of funny to seat SO high!! Of course on the motorway, at 90mph it was like being a window cleaner working on the shard!! The leg thing is very true, my leg was literally burned, it had a blister... But to be honest, who cares about having a right leg when one can look that cool! Absolutely loved it and if I had the money, it would be my choice for the Yin to the Speed Triple Yang. The Scrambler is a naked bike on stilts!! Triumph in Portugal... Triumph was always a niche brand here, favoured by very specific ( and very few ) guys that were more into historic motorcycle brands and also was preferred by a certain type of snob that wanted to be different from the type of snob that had BMWs. In a country were Honda was the choice of 70% of people, European brands were only for specific people, snobs, and I belong to the Triumph snob group!! You have to see that bikes in Portugal were ( I think still are ) classified as a luxury item, so as I later found out, the idea of a Triumph being for working class men, here was abhorrent! So, a very small market and a group of snobbish people has caused that the Brand was always miss represented and miss handled here. Eventually we ended up with the current scenario where the Importer is in Madrid, for Spain and Portugal, cares very little with the Portuguese side of things and the dealer in Portugal ( there is only ONE dealer here, with 3 shops ) has triumph as an add-on to Harley, his main business that existed before he became Triumph dealership. The motivation of the staff at triumph is next to none, many don't know Triumphs or understand them, even now that they are almost as bland and soulless as all others thanks to "focus groups" ( my personal view, not trying to convince anyone! ) and they don't really have much love for Triumphs. The organization is that of a typical Southern European enterprise with many lunch breaks and coffee breaks and holidays and bank holidays. Parts are non-existent and have to be ordered for the Galaxy far, far away that is Spain... In turn they have to get them for the other ( even further away ) Galaxy that is the UK... And has we know they are not made in that Galaxy anymore, they come form another Universe, China and Thailand!!! Probably stuck in the Sues Canal right now!!! Before they arrive in Lisbon they have many miles and many layers of taxes... So the radiator for my Speed Triple is 395 pounds, plus VAT in the UK and 790 euros, plus VAT, in Lisbon!! Because of "Hipster-ism" and metro-sexuality, the Bonneville found itself "discovered" in these shores and is the most sold Triumph! Hurray for slow beards and checkered shirts saving the dealership form ruin! They sold TWO Speed Triples in 1 year, maybe 10 Street Triples and quite a few Tigers 900, but all together not even half of the Bonnevilles. In 2018 Triumph sold in Portugal 232 bikes, large majority Bonnies. I have loved Triumph since I can remember, I love history and motorcycles, and Triumph is super rich in history and instilling character in their machines.. The Speed Triple had me at hello, literally!! I was a member of the Portuguese Triumph Owners Club before I moved to the UK and in the UK I was head of Jack Lilleys Rat Pack for a while plus always very involved with all things Triumph there I even won the award of "Chattiest Triumph Owner" in the whole country ( picture attached!) , so it is with sadness I agree totally with @Pedro, it is not good to have a Triumph in Portugal... Difficult to buy ( if you want any model other then the ones they have in the showroom already or need finance ), impossible to service due to staff incompetence and unavailability of parts and God help us if we drop the bike and need replacing parts!! Of course everything is super expensive...

They feel perfectly manageable in real life, even when stopped.

I was relieved when I googled mukluk ?

They were very gay Pete, they came with the bike but it didn't stop me trying to trail ride with them on

They look gay to me Bob!

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