Pedro

I think it proves your "they are fairly clever" theory to be wrong. They are indeed stupid, but maybe appearing to know something about a specific realm of knowledge makes them look less so.

Speaking all the way from Portugal, I have a couple of posh friends from back in school. Their families are wealthy from business, maybe from two to more generations going back. They drove discrete nice fast cars , wore expensive watches but not something you would know was expensive from 10 meters away, and were well mannered to everyone, never being loud or noticeable in a gathering. They were both very cool people to spend time with, and I liked they were my friends as they're good people. They also rode motocross or raced karts as teenagers, so there's that Now this is my experience from Porto, which is Portugal's second biggest town, located north with a history of industry and old money. Other people's experience in Lisbon varies wildly, Lisbon is a town where old money usually comes from trade and services, and I think that makes a difference. I've met a couple of people over the last couple of years that talked a big talk while boasting of owning cars and stuff, but apparently were more bankrupt than anything else.

What you mean by "posh"? Rich? Good families? We're from a different generation and place, I see nothing weird about a rich guy enjoying a motorcycle.

Pretty cool stuff, but throw in altitude sickness and it probably becomes really tough.

Although I would not even be interested in doing this kind of project or anything even remotely similar, I appreciate how some guys can just make stuff. Allen Milliard making a replica 6 cylinder engine race bike. He's a bit of an odd ball, isn't he? But there is one thing the UK has slightly over most other countries, which is oddball dudes building stuff in garages. It blows my mind.

It's all good. At least you had some, there's always a silver lining.

Looks sweet!

I've never been in a table like that Not even when I'm alone

I think this overly enthusiastic welcome by everyone is scaring people off.

Here, you have a few bars, probably struggling ones since I've only noticed this last year, that offer the 6th beer or a discount if you go over 5

Also, you can now stop fretting about the underside of the sidestand foot getting scratched. It's a new world.

That's a nice looking place

I drank too much, yesterday!

Welcome Pete!

Never had them, it's not very typical in Portugal.

steaks boiled with gravy? I don't know what that even means. We are raised to eat fish and treat steaks with respect!

I got you Bruce, these twats don't know a nice steak from a coal off the ground. Brits!

That's smart, it would only be a classic today if not wrapped around a phone pole.

Big mistake! An R32GTR would have been a classic today, like an E30 M3 pretty much a thing of beauty

I know commoners' drinks, it's just it doesn't come in 33cl bottles here but instead in non labeled bottles of white spirits. If you want beer you have some Super Bock, if you feel like rum or tequila there ar plenty of other options before going full gay, some Cpt Morgan Spiced or kraken spiced is where it's at after a nice coffee.

Skyline, you might as well run an R32, it's all r nothing.

I don't know what "the desperados" is

They're both gentleman, it's the high seas, no civilization in sight, there's no censorship...* * except for englishmen, there's always fucking censorship if you're englishmen

Really, a lot of it. White wine, from the alentejo region. It's lovely.