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'bout 20 minutes. 36€ i had the bike booked in for 14h00 but got there about half an hour early, Vincent, the shop manager turned up about 5 minutes after I did which was a surprise ( French lunch break is still traditionally 12 till 2) and he said he starts before the others to get a half h of calm and do some paperwork before oening the shop at 2 but he let me in so I could sit in the air conditioning and drink his coffee whilst waiting, Pascal the mechanic turned up at 13h45 and rather than open the main shop doors just pushed tigger in through the customer entrance and through the showroom and got straight into it. This sort of behaviour is sufficiently unlike normal French "service" to be worthy of note. Pascal invited me into the workshop to show me what he'd done and to ask how I wanted it finished off. He'd started by joining the wires that were flagged white and yellow with bits of tape, to see if that was effectively the solution, and it was, alarm out of circuit and everything else functioning, I've even still got the dashboard LED flashing as if there was an alarm. he then chopped the remaining wires and I ceremoniously removed the alarm unit, still weeping and clicking ( it has an internal battery) to the workshop bin. Pascal then soldered the connections he'd made, grouped and insulated the loose wires and secured the whole lot together. Good job jobbed! Thank you to all those who made useful and / or helpful comments, cos it was only really because of what I learnt that I was able to push them in the right direction and get the neccessary information out of datatool.

I have no clue, I know where the depot is and its actually closer to me than the hospital, it was a sunday morning so maybe they were "on call" rather than actually at the depot and had to come from home to the depot first but that seems a stoopid way of doing things ( it'd be typically french though, Sunday hours count doiuble here)

Yup, going to the dealer tomorrow. that way there's no " fail" option. well that's nothing if not honest. I'll take that. dealer tomorrow. I'll let you know how long it takes them.

im still kinda hoping that they'll not let the english back in 'til next year.

pedro's right, when I had a "cardiac incident" a few months back, it took the ambulance nearly 40 minutes to get here, on a sunday morning so no traffic and I live about 10 minutes by car from the hospital. I reckon I could have walked it in 4o minutes...

hot here at the mo, high 20's and just into the 30's the last couple of days. looks to be set fine too.... but I can't ride, obviously! I thought I was orking sunday but aparrently not so a lazy day at home on the cards I s'pose.

naaah, sorry mate, I figured that in this particular case you would be about as much practical use as a the little motorised cupholder that slides in and out of the side of my computor.

at the moment it atarts and runs ok. cos i haven't started cutting bits off it. the problem arises when you switch it off. If you're within a certain distance of an autoroute toll gate, or a mobile telephone antenna or relay, or a number of other radio emission sources, You can't disactivate the alarm with the remote control due to the interference from external frequencies. This happens on a regular basis and is extremely annoying. There is a solution when this happens: switch ignition on ( alarm siren sounds, indicators flash and electronic immobiliser cuts in) once the alarm stops screaming ( 30 seconds) you have 5 seconds to switch off and switch on again the alarm emits a series of short "bips" and a series of long "beeps" the long beeps correspond to your manual pin code. when the number of long beeps equals the first digit of your 4 digit pin code switch off the contact, then immediatly back on again and count the beeps corresponding to your 2nd digit... and so on untill you have entered the 4 digits of your pin code. the alarm then emits a series of "bips" for 3 seconds and flashes the indicators once to confirm the alarm is disactivated, you then have 45 seconds to start the engine or the alarm will reactivate in it's default mode. believe me, you learn this procedure by heart... you notice that the whole procedure relies on the "series of "Bips" and "beeps".... so when your alarm no longer makes any sound ( which is now the case here)... you're "fucked" ( Fucked being the correct technical term for the position in which you find yourself in the middle of sodding nowhere at 2 o clock in the morning.) It will then start raining.

don't for one minute I hadn't thought of the possibility of getting Fred and / or Bob over for beer and bike fixing.... not currently feasable with 14 days quarantine involved at each end.. If I want Triumph to do it, they can do it tuesday. I,m going to be working this sunday so tuesday would be the first opportunity I could have a couple or 4 hours clear to have a go at it if I want to try it myself.

I have just got off the phone with Triumph Dijon. I breifly described what you guys have suggested and he said that that was basically what they were proposing they would do. I now have 2 choices, either I go ahead and try to do this myself, (I have a 12v test lamp and a multimeter.) or I get them to do it which he reckons will take them a couple of hours so will cost me around 140€. If I do it myself, i will be chuffed as a very chuffed thing if it all goes ok and works. I do however have an uncanny knack of fucking things up ( with anything electronic) If I get them to do it it will be a professional job and I will have some comeback if it craps out over the next year or the connections come apart or something, and " oh dear I've fucked it for good, won't be an option" but it'll cost me 140 odd €. I'm waiting to see how soon they could do it, if I decide to get them to do the job.

I think you're right Cat. that means it will draw really minimum current right?

if he is I bet he doesn't admit it

Yup.

I moved to france 28 years ago. I married a french girl 22years ago. 5 years ago my wife's aunt told me that her son ( !8 yrs old) was gong to england to become a guitar maker, to a school in lincolnshire. (sleaford or somwhere like that). His Tutor was going to ba a highly regarded ( in the world of acoustic guitars) guitar maker called James Lister... James Lister is my cousin! ( my mum's brother's son) That blew my mind

@Sir Fallsalot Brilliant! yes there's a flashing lamp on the dash when the alarm is armed.

only cos I just took all the tape off. It was quite neat and tidy 'till I got my paws on it

i would If I had any way of knowing which wires they are....

bloody hell @Sir Fallsalot, that actually made sense to me! I have just removed the rest of the tape from the wires between the alarm and the main loom, and found this bunch od soldered connections. The overly consciantious person who fitted the alarm did remove all the coloured rings from the wires... however, I did spot that there are 2 wires with a wee white flag on ( twist of white tape) and 2 with a wee yellow flag on them. What are the chances of these being wires 1&2 and 5 &3 ( or 5&3 and 1&4 maybe? On the french diagram 1 &2 are white and 3&5 are yellow...

shit I just realised the instructions also say to remove the coloured rings once the installation is complete so I may have just wasted my time here.... bastards!

after searching most of the day, but only in French this time, as it seems this fuckup is specifically on the french models I have discovered this; the rest of this document clearly shows that the french remove the multiplug, replacing it with soldered connactions. ( with coloured rings on the ends) What i need to figure out is this: the triumph bypass plug shorts across wires 1 and 2 , and 3 and 5, so i need to connect the white with a white/green, and then the 2 yellows. this should have the same effect as this anybody think that sounds or looks right? ' @boboneleg, @Sir Fallsalot, @Catteeclan, @anybodywithmoreofacluethanme.... #goingnutsnotbeingabletoride

the wires are all black...all of them. According to datatool the alarm is designed to be very difficult to remove, that's the whole point of it.

in the UK yes.... unfortunately in rural France, not so easy. but I'm looking. the problem is finding someone competent and willing to do it. Most of the competent guys work for a garage who won't touch bikes or for a dealer who won't touch another make. Independat, competent AND not a multi hour ride from me....

i've read that too, unfortunately mine doesn't seem to have that piece of equippement. I have maild the dealer in Dijon with a request for a solution. I intend to get back to datatool on tuesday and ask them for a solution ( their techniciens have always been very good on the phone). If none of that brings a satisfactory solution I will have to try The triumph dealers in Paris and contact Triumph France, with a translated copy to Triumph head office requesting a solution. we'll see what Dijon propose, but I imagine it will be to replace the entire wiring harness, which I clearly cannot afford to do.