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No idea when we're likely to be out for a decent run again Ray.......the forecast doesn't look like it's going to get cooler anytime soon.

Great shots! Is there a bike event on somewhere?

Is that a man?

Back from Baza! Visited the client who's got the Cave B&B....... Then the wife wanted to go here! It's already pretty hot (35) but we made it back before the real brutal shit comes in!

Why the boycott?

I'm interested to see these reviews that say the CRF, KLX, and Voge are the exact same bike!

"Compared to" would imply that they're in the same category of bike, but it appears you're saying that the KLX, the CRF, and the Voge are all the same then? And when I say "the same" I'm talking exact replica (as in shared components) like the DL1000 and KLV1000 20 years ago?

Yesterday it was a copy of the KLX! Have they switched the production line or something today?

You've only saved yourself 2.5K if you're comparing like for like, but in this case you're not.

My point exactly......they're an unknown quantity. But what isn't an unknown quantity is the depreciation on them. You'll save money at the outset.......but it's going to come back to bite you in the ass later.

What's going on Bob?

More bloody heat....... Tomorrow morning I'll be doing what I should have done last week if the starter motor hadn't gone in the car. And that's see a client in Baza, and then take the wife to the shops. Sunday morning early I might have a chance to get out for a while.....fingers crossed! What you got planned?

You going to be getting out on it Clive?

Kipping on a building site no doubt.

The Kiddies Chapter is on the move? Have Social Services been alerted?

Yes......at the Loncin factory. This Voge brand is theirs, so I doubt very much the same levels of quality control are in place as when they assemble for BMW!

You're actually riding the bike there?

Well if you guys are so confident about them I'd go ahead and take a punt on one!

One trip on a Voge without incident is hardly conclusive Ray. The engine in the CRF's have been in production for 10 years now.......there's examples out there that are well into six figures with no issues. Do you really see a budget Chinese bike doing that? And the other point is resale value........any Chinky bike owner is going to take a huge hit on that.

That's not the problem......it's the fans not working is the issue.

@Skippy's interested in them! But there's no way I'm going from a Honda to a Chinky........it's like going from ice cream to horse shit!