Seriously Buck , avon's is a budget tire , and it would melt on the rear of this challenger with the amount of torque it produces ...ive tried Michelin , dunlop , Bridgestone, like I said , the commander 3 didn't hear anything good on the wet traction part from reliable sources....not saying its a bad tire...these cruisetec i have ran for 30 thousand km and never at any time felt they were skidish on wet tarmac...they are rated for 17000 thousand miles...and if I wasn't so abusive in the way I ride they would definitely last that long...I ride at times with the traction control turned off and im not gental when leaving from a dead stop...they corner real well also...and is and excellent tire in my opinion...