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2 minutes ago, busabeast said:

He should just bite the bullet and get a proper bike like a cagiva mito or rs125

Mate you have never met the daft twat.   🤣  He makes noises about wanting a geared bike but can't save a fecking penny.   Spunks all he earns on Tik Tok shop on utter crap.  😳  

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It's a fuel injected GY6 engine, if it was carbed it would be easy to fix.   It just dies like the tickover is set to low, no idle adjustment to be set.  It's a basic fuel system really just nothing to adjust. Fuel pump is fine, injector is fine, I am suspicious of the throttle body but don't really know.  Valve clearances are spot on but a fraction loose deliberately, excellent spark.   I am guessing good compression as it goes as well as any 11BHP motor has a right to.     

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14 minutes ago, Saul said:

It's a fuel injected GY6 engine, if it was carbed it would be easy to fix.   It just dies like the tickover is set to low, no idle adjustment to be set.  It's a basic fuel system really just nothing to adjust. Fuel pump is fine, injector is fine, I am suspicious of the throttle body but don't really know.  Valve clearances are spot on but a fraction loose deliberately, excellent spark.   I am guessing good compression as it goes as well as any 11BHP motor has a right to.     

So it only dies at idle...runs fine when riding  ?....personally I would do like Rich was saying..nothing a good stick of dynamite won't fix..lol 

There's no way to increase idle  temporarily  I suppose...

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On 24/06/2025 at 12:34, Saul said:

The boy came home last night complaining his ped keeps dying.    He had been for a long ride to Tavistock and back and run out of fuel during the trip.  
It’s done 15,000 km and has only had oil changes whenever I do one of my bikes as there is always enough left over to do his ped.  So the oil is always pretty clean.   Apart from the first service I don’t think it has been touched otherwise. 
Anyway it was really difficult to start and wouldn’t tick over.   Not an ideal situation in a twist and go.   First thing I did was check the valves which were tight.   Less than 0.005 mm when they should be between 0.010 - 0.015 mm I set them loose on the max measurement.    It started fine then but would still not tick over.   No idle screw that I could find (fuel injected ped) so I adjusted the cable to raise the idle enough so that it wouldn’t stall.    All seems good now.   Rideable at least so he can get to work. I’ve put a shot of Redex injection cleaner in the tank and will do it a few more times when he fills the thing.  I have ordered a service kit for it which fuzz nuts will be paying me back for also I think it will need a new drive belt in the near future so I will look into that as well.   Learning stuff about peds I never wanted to but if it keeps my useless boy in employment it sort of makes sense.  😳

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I have the bike he needs Saul …

treat the boy 

 

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Just now, Marcel said:

So it only dies at idle...runs fine when riding  ?....personally I would do like Rich was saying..nothing a good stick of dynamite won't fix..lol 

There's no way to increase idle  temporarily  I suppose...

It runs absolutely fine just dies at idle.  Only way to increase the idle is to adjust the throttle cable to keep the butterfly open a fraction like an idle screw would.   It's what I have done and it seems to be fine at the moment but I don't think it's an ideal fix.   The sad thing is Fuzz Nuts has had this Ped from new and it's been a good servant, but not looked after.   The only reason it has not blown the motor is I change the oil every time I service one of my bikes.  Other than that it's not touched.   He expects me to pay for it to be serviced, but he can feck off, the piss taking twat earns more than I do.    I don't mind helping, if asked, but  I am not good with teenage attitude, I could go on but won't 🙄

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9 minutes ago, Six30 said:

I have the bike he needs Saul …

treat the boy 

 

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Lovely, but Shadow would slit his throat if he had that 🤣      Plus he hasn't got two pennys to scratch his arse with.  I bought the Ped for £2500 for him, gave him a grand towards it and it took him 3 years to pay me back the rest.  Bank of dad is closed to him.   🤨

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6 minutes ago, Saul said:

It runs absolutely fine just dies at idle.  Only way to increase the idle is to adjust the throttle cable to keep the butterfly open a fraction like an idle screw would.   It's what I have done and it seems to be fine at the moment but I don't think it's an ideal fix.   The sad thing is Fuzz Nuts has had this Ped from new and it's been a good servant, but not looked after.   The only reason it has not blown the motor is I change the oil every time I service one of my bikes.  Other than that it's not touched.   He expects me to pay for it to be serviced, but he can feck off, the piss taking twat earns more than I do.    I don't mind helping, if asked, but  I am not good with teenage attitude, I could go on but won't 🙄

No its not...but  it should give you and good idea what the problem is ..before running out for a new throttle body...

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20 minutes ago, Saul said:

 Not yet 

Probably should have been the first thing to check, that none of us thought about.

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39 minutes ago, Buckster said:

Have you checked for crap in the fuel tank?

You think his boy has crapped in the fuel tank !!

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6 minutes ago, Six30 said:

I can deliver it for you Clive … my god you would look good on that .

Let me just check under the mattress. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Clive said:

Let me just check under the mattress. 

 

Nope. Only fluff and dust.........Good luck with the sale. 👍 

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1 hour ago, Buckster said:

Have you checked for crap in the fuel tank?

True that...forgot you guys run that cheap Russian gaz...

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1 hour ago, Buckster said:

Probably should have been the first thing to check, that none of us thought about.

I don't think there can be much in the tank, I will of course check and do have a low mileage second hand fuel pump to put in just to rule out the current one failing, parts are pretty cheap for these things second hand.   Also I cleaned up stream from the injector but not the tank so it does need doing.    Only thing that is expensive is the throttle body and CDI unit.   I am going to do the drive belt and variator first though just in case that is causing drag, enough to stall the bike at very low revs.    And seeing it should have been done at 6k and the Ped is on 12k  tells me it would be smart to do.    Lean't allsorts about these fecking things the last few weeks.  🙄   I wish I had gone with my convictions and bought him a second hand Honda ped or cub type thing in the first place.   His mother insisted he had something new but in the long term I reckon he would have been better off with an Innova 110 or something of that ilk.   But what the fuck would I know. 🤨

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1 hour ago, Six30 said:

You think his boy has crapped in the fuel tank !!

I won't answer that in detail because he is at the age where I would rather thump him than look at him.   Probably not but he hasn't got much sense.  😳

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10 minutes ago, Buckster said:

Probably worth checking the fuel line and if there is a filter then swap that as well.

Nothing between the tank and injector the only filter is the sock on the fuel pump.😉

 

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5 minutes ago, Saul said:

Nothing between the tank and injector the only filter is the sock on the fuel pump.😉

Check it for flaky residue, he may be using it for additional purposes.

 

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2 minutes ago, Buckster said:

Check it for flaky residue, he may be using it for additional purposes.

 

Fuel sock not wank sock 🤣

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