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My first foray into computers was using a General Automation Spc 16/65. the 2-1/2 megabyte hard drives where the size of a current desktop computer cabinet :). Trying to remember if the 16 was how many kb of ram it had to execute programs. To start it, there was a panel key sequence you went thru to get it to boot (instead of just powering it on). ahhh, the good old days

Try searching for reasons things did happen, or did work at the same time as looking for the conspiracies. (Not a dig, just help <G>). Given that i am an old nerd and lived thru the original three space programs (Mercury, Gemini and Apollo) its funny to think now that future generations would question they did happen. Meaning, they would have included rebuttals for all the "facts" out there today. The Lunar Lander was made of the lightest materials possible as weight is a penalty during space travel. You can not stand in one, on Earth. On the moon, however, the cold, lack of atmosphere and low gravity all came together to make it stiff enough to support people and equipment. So, cardboard? doubt it. lightweight, thin materials? definitely. The Van Allen belts? think those were a surprise to trip planners? Naw. They had already been to space, been around the moon, and actually (fortunately) didnt have the internet with the millions of lines of bullcrap "facts" leading them wrong. They had scientific, verified info. Available in books (remember those?) that have stood the test of the scientific method. If you want a better mind exercise than googling moon myths, take some time and figure out how you would go to the moon. What spacecraft, what protection, what food, fuel, etc. It was done in the 60s, with none of what we have today. Computers were huge and had low capabilities. No one had sent men up in rockets before Mercury (ok, the Russians, but during the same time frame). Then, sign up at Blue Origin, or Virgin Galactic, save up your $$ and go up yourself to see if it is real. Lastly, ask yourself why would we fake it? what would be gained by faking it? Whatever you do, dont watch Capricorn One

So, where is it stated that the man coming down the steps is Armstrong? In the second picture, the presence of wheel tracks says that this is one of the later landings, with the moon rover. I watched the landing on tv, in real time (well, real to me) in 1969. The first pics of Armstrong were taken by a tv camera mounted on the lander. They were very grainy and inverted and had to be righted so you could understand what you were watching. Here is one person's response to the question who took the pictures. that dovetails with what i remember watching: "Neil did; It was a camera mounted on the side of the LM. Just before he climbed down, Armstrong pulled a lanyard to deploy the camera package which mounted a low quality, slow scan, TV camera. The slow scan is why there was ghosting on the image as the background image was not totally overwritten by the moving image of the astronauts in the foreground. When you watch the entire video of Apollo 11’s time on the moon, about an hour, you can see them walk up to the camera and change the lens a couple times. It’s obviously attached to the side of the spacecraft. They were their own camera crew with the lander acting as their tripod. What conspiracy theorists don’t understand is that this was the Cold War and the Soviets had every reason to publically expose any fake as they wanted to show the US space program was inferior to their own. They were watching carefully, following the spacecraft by radar and radio direction finding. They never had any objection; the moon landings were real by every test they could imagine." Some other info: "On July 20, 1969, the Apollo 11 Lunar Module landed with two cameras, but only one went outside — carried by Neil Armstrong. That explains why nearly every photograph of an astronaut on the surface during that first landing is of Armstrong crewmate Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin. Armstrong had the only camera for nearly the entire two-and-a-half hours the two walked around the Sea of Tranquility. An official NASA document describes how the space agency's public affairs department, scrambling to satisfy the world's media for photographs of the historic moonwalk, suddenly discovered an embarrassing oversight. "They started looking for the best shot of Armstrong," according to a transcript included in the Apollo 11 Lunar Surface Journal. "Soon they were looking for any shot of Armstrong." Aldrin, who was busy setting up lunar experiments, did briefly take over the camera and remarkably, snapped only a single photo of Armstrong. The camera "just wasn't part of what his job was at the time," Levasseur says." Lastly, the question as to why the film didnt freeze (or melt). There is no atmosphere on the moon. The film would only melt if exposed directly to sunlight, which it wasnt. It was sealed in a vacuum, protecting it from temps. "This is a crucial detail, since on the Moon there’s no significant atmosphere that can be heated by the ground and therefore there is no way to transfer heat from the ground to the films. Vacuum is a very good heat insulator, as thermos flasks demonstrate. In a vacuum there is no heat transfer by conduction or convection, which are the main heating and cooling processes on Earth. There’s no air to warm or chill objects by contact." Again, when researching, ask both questions and look at both answers. Otherwise, i bet you will tell me there is no Santa Claus, too.

Also - https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2019/06/25/yes-the-apollo-moon-landings-really-did-happen/?sh=444a07dd6a8f But, of course the article and photos provided could be fake. Hence my question as to what do you need for proof that would give you 100% confidence that we did land on the moon?

If you look just above the gray colored foil, you will see the shadow from this skinny rod piece. The thicker shadow is from something else. probably suspended off the spindly leg. Real questions - what fact(s) would convince you we landed on the moon several times? What telescope videos have you watched that clearly show a rotating planet in our solar system? (or, what about them leads you to question flat or round earth?)

well, the others were manned. might make a difference

Went back to Baja with a different group.

it sure is. Some other shots from that morning.

we dodged rain most of the trip, except for one afternoon. Baja never disappoints!

Another great trip down south to see the whales. This time with east coast friends. US sightseeing, first $1.00 street tacos in Tecate Morning in San Felipe. Slumming it in Bahia de Los Angeles Motorcycles are the universal language! Early morning ride to the lagoon in San Ignacio, maternity ward for the Pacific grey whales. Very well regulated tours to meet the whales. Only 15 boats in the lagoon at one time. Limited time on any whale, should they come say 'hi' to you. Must not have had their morning coffee, as the whales were a little standoffish this trip. We werent able to pet any of em. This past week, other friends to the lagoon had them flipping over to have their bellies rubbed. Native cave paintings near Catavina. Cave in previous picture is under the rock behind that sign. Old Mill Motel in San Quintin. We lucked out as the restaurant owner was coming in on his day off to cook for another large group. The pasta and two lobster tails - $25 US!

At bed time it was probably in mid to high 60s. Coolest it got was high 50s.

It was the best weekend we've spent in the last 8 years. Temps were 80s during day, and high 50s during the night. Lowest temps didnt happen until very late.

sooo calming. Campgrounds are quiet and if no wind, pretty much the whole valley is quiet and peaceful. In fact, on Saturday night, me and two other guys were the noisiest thing in the campground. According to the camp host

Club did a camping weekend in Death Valley, recently reopened after the hurricane damage in August. Still a lot of the roads closed, but main two had been repaired.

Previously posted, does that nullify the entry?

nice! bike and shipping container it came in!

Playing with the dealer's toys

Little ride around Utah, Nevada and California with the incontinent bunch (BMW Club of Southern California). Chilly temps, little rain, some snow. Death Valley was a perfect ending to warm us all back up.

might want to polish that chrome a little bit.

who isnt?

I may be slow, but i am also dense.

Reading is fundamental. You were referring to the Groundpounder Yes, that bike was pretty close to unrideable! Feet forward, but you had nothing to hang on to at full throttle. The lack of suspension was readily apparent. But, at the time it looked cool. This was the heyday of factory customs!

Interesting. Just got back from a 500 mile ride and dont know what "unridable" means to some. The only time it gets interesting is when i pretend its a canyon racer. The bagger version has more ground clearance than the original, but I am usually passing/leaving most Harleys i see in the mountains here. Actually, mine became a little less rideable yesterday. The free Sirius radio subscription ran out

yessir. present i bought myself when i turned 40. Bike vibrated so much that the air cleaner screw backed out while salesman was showing me the bike. Had one hell of a motor! Would break the rear tire loose in second gear, while moving.