Yes i know what you mean. Years ago i owned a fantic 200 trials bike when everyone else had the all singing and dancing Gas Gas contact, i always blamed the crap suspension and brakes for me not being able to do things on it, i was out with some mates the one day and a new lad turned up, after a while of complaining about the bike to him he asked if he could have a go. we were on an old industrial estate at the time, He got on it and approached the crash barrier on the side of the road and with a little rev the front wheel was on top of it then another little rev the front was over and the rear wheel was on the barrier. then he done an endo U turn and repeated the crash barrier maneuver after i picked my jaw up off the floor i realised it was me that was shit and not the bike