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You're actually riding the bike there?

Well if you guys are so confident about them I'd go ahead and take a punt on one!

Superb! Give us some background on it!

One trip on a Voge without incident is hardly conclusive Ray. The engine in the CRF's have been in production for 10 years now.......there's examples out there that are well into six figures with no issues. Do you really see a budget Chinese bike doing that? And the other point is resale value........any Chinky bike owner is going to take a huge hit on that.

That's not the problem......it's the fans not working is the issue.

@Skippy's interested in them! But there's no way I'm going from a Honda to a Chinky........it's like going from ice cream to horse shit!

Fucking power cut now.....useless twats.

Temperature Dave!

Going to be 42 again today!

So you don't wash your hair at all zzzak?

My fanboy is here!

@Six30

42c here today.......with the sort of sticky humidity that you get on the coast! And no sign of it letting up yet!

@yen_powell : "Hold My Beer".

Did you go on the train Clive?

Got to be a connection to Beemer ownership surely?

Is there anything on this planet that isn't my fault Pedro? I'm surprised that you haven't accused me of being the cause of your hair loss!

When you're a Strom guy it's difficult to find something that matches up to them as an all purpose machine. You always keep going back to them!

With offroading I think it's a case of getting the skills when you're younger and physically capable of dealing with the consequences of something going wrong.

Very capable machine......but pretty much a dinosaur today.

I find it disturbing for a couple of reasons! Firstly they don't seem to be bothered if they trash their bikes, despite the value of them. Are they loaded......or just fucking stupid? Or both? And also, considering most of those guys are not young, they seem oblivious to the physical damage they could inflict on themselves. Back in the mid 70's I used to come off my TS185 and DT400 all the time by pissing about and trying to do wheelies and jumps offroad. I'd hit the deck and bounce around, then just jump back on as if nothing had happened. Then in 2004 I binned my boy's DT175......and I hit the deck like a sack of shit. I certainly didn't bounce anymore! Took me about 10 minutes to get back on my feet again and I didn't feel right all day! So the consequences of something like that for me (and guys like me) now at our advanced ages don't bear thinking about. They wouldn't just be serious, they could well be permanent.

Can you find a place for him in your new gang? Maybe he'll switch his man crush to you then?

Yeh....there was a few on there who didn't seem to be getting up.