Marcel Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Pedro said: Same market, touring bike, not less comfortable in any way, carries the same luggage and passenger in comfort. But you're right, it's not in the same ballpark, it's way better. Way better in leaking oil...lol...omg Pedro this is another Ducati kinda bike...plague with ABS nightmares...so complicated built that only a dealership can work on them...how reliable are they ? Don't see this bike breaking the endurance record that for sure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago A friend of mine owned one...it was and older model...can't remember the year...it wasn't very old...the abs unit failed on it and the warranty had just ran out...it was actually cheaper to scrap the bike than having it repaired... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Marcel said: Way better in leaking oil...lol...omg Pedro this is another Ducati kinda bike...plague with ABS nightmares...so complicated built that only a dealership can work on them...how reliable are they ? Don't see this bike breaking the endurance record that for sure.... I don't know. We could look at used bikes for sale and see which have the highest mileage. I don't know what you're talking about ABS nightmares. You take yours to the dealer on a trailer when it sneezes and it's 3 hours away, and you call yourself a good mechanic. So how is the Indian being simple helps you? You're the one going on about your own bike seeping fluids and going in for warranty work, plus needing remaps, etc, not to mention the weak cast frame. 3 minutes ago, Marcel said: A friend of mine owned one...it was and older model...can't remember the year...it wasn't very old...the abs unit failed on it and the warranty had just ran out...it was actually cheaper to scrap the bike than having it repaired... I call bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago You literally bought a trailer to take your bike to the dealership, @Marcel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Pedro said: I don't know. We could look at used bikes for sale and see which have the highest mileage. I don't know what you're talking about ABS nightmares. You take yours to the dealer on a trailer when it sneezes and it's 3 hours away, and you call yourself a good mechanic. So how is the Indian being simple helps you? You're the one going on about your own bike seeping fluids and going in for warranty work, plus needing remaps, etc, not to mention the weak cast frame. I call bullshit. Its under warranty Pedro...why would I work on it...? Have you forgotten Pete's BMW experience...lol. Nothing against German engineering....from having looked at the company in general...to bikes to cars...they are over engineerd...why was the Sherman tank better than the tiger. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Marcel said: Nothing against German engineering....from having looked at the company in general...to bikes to cars...they are over engineerd...why was the Sherman tank better than the tiger. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted 16 hours ago Author Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Buckster said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Buckster said: I love how little the IOM style bubble looks on top of that huge bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Getting back on subject Pedro...you were comparing that beauty from BMW to the powerplus engine...im sure at 160 hp BMW hasn't much left in the tank with that engine...you do realize the powerful powerplus is de-tuned sold to the public...that engine can easily produce over 200 hp with only intake and exaust mods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted 16 hours ago Author Share Posted 16 hours ago Harley Davidson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Buckster said: Harley Davidson Stay out of this idiot...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Marcel said: Getting back on subject Pedro...you were comparing that beauty from BMW to the powerplus engine...im sure at 160 hp BMW hasn't much left in the tank with that engine...you do realize the powerful powerplus is de-tuned sold to the public...that engine can easily produce over 200 hp with only intake and exaust mods... It's all coulda shoulda woulda with you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Pedro said: It's all coulda shoulda woulda with you! I'd give up now if I was you...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Have you noticed Buckster hasn't tried to dispute any of my claims....kinda makes you think don't it...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster Posted 16 hours ago Author Share Posted 16 hours ago Harley Davidson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Have you seen this Buck...they are aiming to have bike in the 200 hp range... Buckster won't tell you this...even thoe the challenger is a race bike...it's still highly restricted by rules to make it a fair race for Harleys...even with a significant displacement disavantage...112 ci..to 135 ci... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 48 minutes ago, Pedro said: Its because the tiger tank was and over engineered machine...it looked good on paper...but was a nightmare to repair out on the field...to complicated for nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 hours ago, Marcel said: Its because the tiger tank was and over engineered machine...it looked good on paper...but was a nightmare to repair out on the field...to complicated for nothing... So now you went from Indian vs Harley to Indian vs the whole of German engineering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Pedro said: So now you went from Indian vs Harley to Indian vs the whole of German engineering? Im a little busy this morning...so I'll just make this reply...im not the who brought in that Fancy BMW sport touring into the mix...just look at that tellaweird suspension on the front of some bike...what wrong with a good inverted forks ? I don't understand the concept of this...if it was so good ..every other manufacturers would be copying the design...have you ever seen a motocross bike with a setup like that...this Pic pretty sums up German engineering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Marcel said: Im a little busy this morning...so I'll just make this reply...im not the who brought in that Fancy BMW sport touring into the mix...just look at that tellaweird suspension on the front of some bike...what wrong with a good inverted forks ? I don't understand the concept of this...if it was so good ..every other manufacturers would be copying the design...have you ever seen a motocross bike with a setup like that...this Pic pretty sums up German engineering... They did, Honda with the other tourer that outclasses yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, Pedro said: They did, Honda with the other tourer that outclasses yours! Goldwing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted 31 minutes ago Share Posted 31 minutes ago The Goldwing....and automatic transmission....might has well trow some doors on it and a roof and call it the CivicWing...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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