Had some time to kill today, so...

[Sir Fallsalot]

4 minutes ago, XTreme said:

Bloody hell.......seen these @Sir Fallsalot?

Don't fancy pointing that lot  I love a stone wall just too damn expensive here 

 

[Earache]

And this is the Welsh Wall. Portions of it are modern but you can see the old portion still in there. Couple of old pics showing the Wall in the 1880's...

[Earache]

Found a better pic of the Welsh Wall in it's heyday. The two big buildings are still there today. One is still a church and the other is the Police Station (big blue building in pics above)

[XTreme]

What took the Welsh to that area @Earache?

[Earache]

14 minutes ago, XTreme said:

What took the Welsh to that area @Earache?

Gold. When gold was discovered here, the companies that owned the mines needed experienced miners as none were in the US at the time. So, they enticed the English, Irish and Welsh experienced miners  to come here.  Later, other nationalities came, but it was all UK initially.

Funny, if the old western movies were accurately done, most of the characters would have had English, Irish and Welsh accents. It's amazing how many of them were here.

 

Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_County_Regulators#:~:text=The Lincoln County Regulators%2C or,County War in New Mexico.  The Regulators were famous and led by John Tunstall from England. The movie "Young Guns" was about this group.

 

[XTreme]

9 minutes ago, Earache said:

Gold. When gold was discovered here, the companies that owned the mines needed experienced miners as none were in the US at the time. So, they enticed the English, Irish and Welsh experienced miners  to come here.  Later, other nationalities came, but it was all UK initially.

Funny, if the old western movies were accurately done, most of the characters would have had English, Irish and Welsh accents. It's amazing how many of them were here.

 

Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_County_Regulators#:~:text=The Lincoln County Regulators%2C or,County War in New Mexico.  The Regulators were famous and led by Joyhm Tunstall from England.

Great info! 

[Earache]

1 minute ago, XTreme said:

Great info! 

And if you're really bored:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knocker_(folklore)

A mythical creature called a "TommyKnocker" kept the miners safe. Today, in the next town over (Idaho Springs), there is still a brewery called TommyKnockers - named after the English. Shame their beers sucks - should have gotten a few English brewers to come over as well.

[Earache]

Bit of a read, but mentions one of the buildings that I took a pic of and also details some info about immigrants in the town of Como.

See:  http://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/free_content/parked-in-the-past-early-days-in-como-bespoke-a-rowdy-coal-mining-railroad-hub/article_26592d04-92b3-11e4-a3e1-7f39120557da.html?fbclid=IwAR08zIHgiehQvBKrxPdIe1Nk4upm60rN5ifU5S7g-Ba1HuBqJhVLwRiFvLE

[XTreme]

Won't let us access from the EU!

[boboneleg]

2 hours ago, XTreme said:

Won't let us access from the EU!

I blame the twat in charge with the blond combover

[Earache]

7 hours ago, XTreme said:

Won't let us access from the EU!

Gotta keep them foreigners out, ya know.

Will try a copy and paste...

 

Parked in the Past: Early days in Como bespoke a rowdy coal-mining railroad hub

Laura Van Dusen, Flume correspondent

 

Jan 3, 2015

 

On Sept. 29, 1881, John Lyons killed James Donley inside this saloon. The decorative diamond entrance was added later in the building’s history. It still stands at 6th and Rowe streets in downtown Como.

Laura Van Dusen/The Flume

This Como band from about 1900 and others like it entertained at Fourth of July parades and other events in Como’s early years.

Courtesy Park County Local History Archives, source: Robert Craig

The narrow gauge Denver, South Park & Pacific Railroad had merged into the Colorado & Southern by 1900 when this photo was taken. As early as 1879, 20 incoming and outgoing freight trains per day rode the rails through Como.

Courtesy Park County Local History Archives, source: Howard and Freda Mason

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Como, 10 miles north of Fairplay on U.S. Highway 285, is a sleepy town today with less than 25 fulltime residents.

Back in its early days though, it was a different story. The Fairplay Flume of Nov. 10, 1881, said, “The state of society now existing at Como is about as bad as can be imagined,” and warned residents to take control.

In its first few years, from mid-1879 through 1885, four men were murdered within the town of Como and six more died in accidents. The employment contractor for the South Park Coal Mines was severely beaten in the Como War in 1879 and luckily survived.

Still, the town prospered.

A large school was built on a hill above town and churches of several denominations held weekly services. Dances sponsored by the Como Social Club provided entertainment for its upstanding citizens. They were held every other Friday evening, at locations such as the school house, the Como and Gilman Hotels, and the town hall.

It was the most populated place in the county in the early years and talk in 1884 proposed moving the county seat from Fairplay to Como. Buildings still standing in Como today date from those first years, including the depot, the roundhouse, the elementary school, the Catholic Church and Montag’s Saloon.

Historical restoration of the Como Depot was completed Oct. 8; the restoration prompted a look back at Como’s early years.

Magic City

A story in the July 17, 1879 Flume, describes the “Magic City of Como that has risen in thirty days.”

That’s when the Denver, South Park & Pacific Railroad topped Kenosha Pass and made its way past Jefferson to Como.

The Flume called Como “the liveliest town of its size in the state.” There were 60 or 70 tents used both as residences and businesses and up to a dozen wooden structures. The main business was the railroad.

With up to 20 incoming and outgoing freight trains per day and with the activity of loading and unloading, it was undoubtedly noisy.

From Denver, the trains carried general merchandise to augment a growing population, hay and grain for increasing livestock herds, and coke (a type of fuel derive from coal or petroleum) as fuel for the machinery that was also freighted to the end of the line.

Gold and other minerals were transported back to Denver. Coal, from rich reserves at both Como and King (a town about two and a half miles southeast), was hauled back to Denver and also used to fuel trains at the Como-based railhead. In 1880, the Denver Ice Company shipped ice from Lake Como on DSP&P cars.

In the first month of its existence, passenger travel to and from Colorado’s capital to Como was considered heavy, with up to 20 people per day traveling in each direction.

Early businesses

Business was booming from the first month of the town’s existence.

Three freighting companies operated in early Como. They transported goods on wagons and sold groceries, clothing and general merchandise on the side. One freighter dealt in fresh fruits and vegetables, probably a welcome commodity in the high-elevation mountain town.

Ed’s Restaurant, the O.K. Restaurant, the South Park Railroad Eating House and A.C. Edwards’ dining hall welcomed customers with meals any time of the day or night. In a tent above the permanent wooden structure of Ed’s Restaurant was Hamilton’s barber shop.

In its first years Como had a meat market, a livery stable that also sold lumber, a harness shop, clothing and general merchandise stores, one bakery, two stage lines, a billiard hall, a few hotels and at least six saloons.

Some saloons had a relaxed atmosphere, like the Club House, billed as “a place to spend a quiet hour and enjoy a glass of Milwaukee or Budweiser beer,” and the Gold Room, “a neat and orderly house.”

Others attracted a more boisterous crowd.

One saloon described at length in the July 17, 1879 Flume was Dodge’s Footlights and Varieties. It claimed order was kept and police were not necessary, but also said the establishment was “bound to make fun for the boys.”

The saloon consisted of a pavilion, 33 feet by 80 feet, with an attached 18-foot by 30-foot tent and a 25-foot-long bar. The dance floor took up half the tent where “many hundreds congregate every night” dancing to piano and guitar music.

Games of chance played in the saloon included high ball poker, roulette, twenty-one, faro, chuck-a-luck (played with three dice), and two games for which references could not be found – thimble wheel and the mustang game.

Montag’s Saloon was another early drinking establishment in Como. It is still standing on the corner of Sixth and Rowe streets. On Sept. 26, 1881, it was the scene of one of the first murders in Como.

Murder at the Montag

The Flume of Sept. 29, 1881 said that James Donley (or Donneli) and John Lyons were both at the saloon when one of Donley’s friends hit Lyons. Lyons told the friend not to do that again and then left the saloon.

Lyons returned a short time later and encountered Donley. A fight broke out between Donley and Lyons and they “grappled and rolled together on the floor.” Soon it was a free-for-all as several other men joined in the fight, “rolling on the floor together,” according to the Flume story.

During the fight, Lyons pulled out his revolver, fired it and hit Donley. Nobody believed the shot would prove to be fatal. Donley was taken to a Denver hospital on the train and Lyons was jailed in Fairplay.

Donley died soon after, apparently from the wounds, although Lyons said the victim had a “foul disease, which caused death as much as his wound.”

Lyons was held at the Park County jail before his trial where another man, Fred Dier, attempted unsuccessfully to help Lyons escape. At the trial a jury could not decide on a verdict but Lyons was returned to jail, apparently for the attempted escape. Dier was also held.

In June 1882, both Lyons and Dier were shackled together with ball and chain doing yard work on the courthouse lawn. There was no guard present and it appeared the two “had provided themselves with a key” to unlock the anklet, according to the Flume of June 29, 1882. They escaped into a thicket of underbrush and were not seen or heard from again.

Deadly argument

The very first recorded death by gunshot in Como happened on Dec. 9, 1879, according to the Dec. 11 and 12, 1879, editions of the Rocky Mountain News.

J. W. Laughlin and Augustus (Gus) Cornog were guards for the South Park Coal Company and shared a company cabin. On the evening of Dec. 9, 1879, Laughlin was inside the cabin when Cornog came in and dumped kerosene on the fire to help it burn. In the process he spilled some of the oil on Laughlin.

Laughlin asked Cornog to be careful, according to the News story. Angry words were exchanged between the two and Cornog pulled out a revolver as if to shoot Laughlin, but he didn’t shoot.

Laughlin picked up his Winchester rifle, telling Cornog he shouldn’t pull a gun on an unarmed man. Then Cornog again pointed his revolver and made a move as if to shoot.

Laughlin fired the rifle at Cornog, who died almost instantly. Laughlin pled self-defense at his trial in November 1880 and was acquitted.

Como War

Both Laughlin and Cornog were guards hired to keep the peace after the “Como War,” a confrontation described on Page 2 of the Nov. 13, 1879, Fairplay Flume.

The war started on Sunday, Nov. 9, 1879. Italians working the coal mines near the Como railroad tracks became upset when two of their race were fired and replaced by Chinese workers. A group of 30 Italians approached the Chinese and told them to leave the country at once, threatening to cut off their queues “three inches south of their ears” if they didn’t leave.

[Queues were a traditional Manchu (northeastern China) hairstyle where the front and sides of the head were shaved; the rest was plaited into a long braid. In 1644, when the Manchu dynasty defeated the Chinese, all Chinese men were ordered to wear a queue hairstyle. It was an act of treason punishable by beheading to cut the queue. Because most Chinese working in 19th century America expected to return to China, it was necessary to keep their queues.]

When the Chinese didn’t leave by the following Tuesday, the gang of Italians tried to convince employment contractor E.L. Thayer to fire the Chinese. They surrounded him as he walked to the Como depot.

Thayer calmly greeted the miners but refused their request. The Italians became angry so Thayer authoritatively pulled out his revolver. That caused all the Italians to pull out their guns; they told Thayer to drop his weapon and he did.

The Italian mob then threw Thayer to the ground, stomped on him and pounded him with the butts of their rifles. Thayer was at a double disadvantage, one, he was outnumbered and two, he had only one arm; his right arm was amputated years before.

The crowd became more violent. A pistol barrel was placed at the back of Thayer’s head and fired at close range. Luckily for Thayer, he was also hit or shoved by one of the Italians at the same time. When the gun discharged, the bullet glanced off his skull and gave him a “severe concussion, but no wound to speak of,” the Flume story said.

The 30 Italians who started the turmoil were fired. Italians and Chinese continued to work the mines together, along with other nationalities, until at least 1885, when the Flume of May 28, 1885, said all the Chinese miners had left.

Good times

It wasn’t all bad news in Como’s first years. The Fourth of July was celebrated in style.

In 1882, residents of Como woke at sunrise to a 55-gun salute followed by fireworks. Then a “procession of comical vagabonds” led celebrants to the town picnic grounds where Judge Webster Ballinger read the Declaration of Independence before the games began – foot races, horse races and contests of athletic ability. The games were followed by a grand ball in the evening sponsored by the Union Circle of United Irishmen of Como.

The 1885 celebration started with a parade in the morning. The Como Cornet Band and Select Knights of the Ancient Order of United Workmen  lead the way. Afternoon games included foot races and a baseball game. A dance was held Friday, July 3, at the Gilman Hotel and another was held July 4 at the town hall.

Also in 1885, a group called the Como Colored Concert Coterie entertained the public in the town hall. That building was alternately called the “Broadway Opera House” for its location at 7th Street and Broadway, and DeBarneure’s Hall, for the man who built it. The group put on a minstrel show followed by a burlesque called, “The Black Justice.”

A few weeks later, the Como Dramatic Club brought in a national entertainer, comedian Harry Webber. His troupe, with wife Eva and daughter Carrie, was popular in the East, according to the May 8, 1885, Aspen Daily Times. The troupe played in Aspen and Denver before a two-night Como engagement in late May 1885, when they performed “Blunders,” “Bessie’s Burglar,” and “Nip and Tuck.”

Maturing

After the tumulus first six years, Como gradually adopted a gentler attitude. Only two murders made the news in the next 15 years.

Railroad workers brought their families to Como and news turned to schools, baseball games, fishing and politics. Contributing to the calm was the closing of the coal mines in the 1890s and the end-of-the-track tent city moving on down the line.

[Specs]

Nice ride, and interesting to read about some of the local history. 

Mining in Wales predates the Romans. There are still Bronze Age ruins with recognisable stone walling about. 

[Specs]

On 18/06/2020 at 10:16, boboneleg said:

I blame the twat in charge with the blond combover

Which one?